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One of THOSE days - Tangled Web - 10-22-2013, 06:48 PM
RE: One of THOSE days - nats - 10-23-2013, 05:40 PM
RE: One of THOSE days - tweeter - 10-23-2013, 08:42 PM
RE: One of THOSE days - tweeter - 10-23-2013, 11:30 PM
RE: One of THOSE days - nats - 10-24-2013, 06:25 AM
RE: One of THOSE days - tweeter - 10-25-2013, 09:40 AM
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RE: One of THOSE days - tweeter - 10-27-2013, 09:14 PM
RE: One of THOSE days - Tangled Web - 10-28-2013, 01:53 AM
RE: One of THOSE days - tweeter - 10-28-2013, 07:50 AM
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(10-28-2013, 01:53 AM)Tangled Web Wrote: What you refer to is a structure, or cover, that serves to satisfy curiosity and avoid questions you don't want asked. It can be true or fictional. I like to go for truth. But, my truth is a failure to succeed because I didn't know how to find my place.

A very interesting way to start this thread tweets. Truth..........that is what we struggle with. Some days I seek out the truth and end up with glimpse of it and think fictional is better and go there instead. Then we question.......is THIS the truth or is it just another lie? How do you know? How can you tell? To assume everything is lie seems to be the safer way to go, people tell lies, your past is a lie, always doubting the words that come out of people's mouth and assume they are lying. It is easier that way for us it seems. Everything was always based on lies our whole entire life so how are we able to identify what TRUTH really is? I guess that is our question.........
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Thank you, Tangled.
Right now, I'm struggling with issues of increasing dishonesty in America, and the world in general.
TRUTH has always been an iffy term to me, and I don't use the word much. I'm not one to believe in absolutes. Interesting that I used it above. I hadn't noticed. It amounts to self-definition.

Distortion of what can be called Truth, because it is so to someone, is Not always due to lies, but to perceptions and learned methods of observation. What is presented as truth, or fact, might be opinion or belief, even in science. (continued later)

With exceptions, I had contact with many trustworthy people in high school, and I was a trusting and very straightforward person until a few years ago.

I focus along the lines of Honesty. How do I know the difference? Anyone can be fooled. I've worked on this for a long time. I read people. Sometimes it happens, casually, by itself, sometimes I focus on a person's intent. I don't make it a project for everyone I meet. Any interaction with a doctor receives full attention, for my protection.
At my best, I am relaxed and dispassionate in judgment and action.


On to science and the medical:
Sloppy science or sloppy/deceptive reporting is a real problem in the medical field, in the energy harvesting field, etc.. This can be due to incomplete reporting of medical research, or attempted suppression of knowledge of environmental effects in the energy industry. Re the latter, a beaut was reported in Canada.

Lines can be crossed, and that which was theory, conjecture, intelligent guessing, abbreviated reporting of patient data, etc., for instance, can by presentation and intent become blatant lying. The reasons given are usually some form of cost effectiveness (unbelievable bs), adherence to a protocol across the board, etc. In some cases (yes, mine included), it's criminal. I'll stop on this.

I'm wondering at what point the nonsense I've seen will graduate from withholding data, to lying to the patient about test results.
Here's a portion of the terms a patient has to agree to in order to be able to sign in on a particular website, and get test results. The facility name will not be mentioned or inferred. I will not sign up. In fact, I think I'm discontinuing any contact with this place because of what has occurred.

(the facility)_ PROVIDES (this website) "AS IS" WITH ALL FAULTS AND MAKES NO WARRANTIES OR GUARANTEES OF ANY KIND, AND EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ANY AND ALL WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND OR NATURE, WHETHER EXPRESSS, IMPLIED, OR STATUTORY REGARDING (the website). INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE ACCURACY, COMPLETENESS, CORRECTNESS, TIMELINESS OR USEFULNESS OF ANY INFORMATION, PROGRAMS, PRODUCTS, SERVICES, OR OTHER MATERIAL PROVIDED THROUGH (the website), OR OF RELIABILITY,
"Even the very emptiest of the emptiest
Has a false bottom, a false bottom."
10-28-2013, 07:50 AM
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One of THOSE days - Tangled Web - 10-22-2013, 06:48 PM
RE: One of THOSE days - nats - 10-23-2013, 05:40 PM
RE: One of THOSE days - tweeter - 10-23-2013, 08:42 PM
RE: One of THOSE days - tweeter - 10-23-2013, 11:30 PM
RE: One of THOSE days - nats - 10-24-2013, 06:25 AM
RE: One of THOSE days - tweeter - 10-25-2013, 09:40 AM
RE: One of THOSE days - nats - 10-25-2013, 04:00 PM
RE: One of THOSE days - tweeter - 10-27-2013, 09:14 PM
RE: One of THOSE days - Tangled Web - 10-28-2013, 01:53 AM
RE: One of THOSE days - tweeter - 10-28-2013, 07:50 AM

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